newcamd 5.12

[jpm]

This is very sad, please read:

Originally published in newcamd 5.12 release

No, THIS IS NOT A FAKE, this IS the official release of newcamd v5.12

This is an empty release because the authoring team of newcamd believes, it is time for certain people to watch less TV and instead maybe read this readme again very carefully and especially reflect on rule number 1 on how to
distribute newcamd:

1. For standalone (outside of flash images) distribution, you are NOT allowed
to make any changes to the original ZIP archive whatsoever. Distributions of
newcamd must not include any keys or Nagra ROMs.

It seems to the newcamd Team that this rule has been ignored repeatedly in the
recent past on UMP alone by files like newcamd_v5.10e_full_0507.rar or
PiX_Update_New_Keys_Newcamd5.11_280704.rar.

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It is also our firm believe that access to Free-TV is made way to easy for
people at the moment and we are seriously considering disallowing the
distribution of future newcamd releases inside flash images. We have been
following a public policy up until now, because we wanted to provide a free
alternative to the never ending greed of the commerical pirates. But we do
believe however, that we can ask everyone wanting to use our software, to get
out of their TV armchairs and pause the growing of their asses (to quote the
writer of a certain FAQ) long enough to learn how to upload a couple of files
to their boxes via ftp, read the supplied documentation and edit a couple of
keyfiles. Everybody can learn how to do that easily, and we mean EVERYBODY.
We feel that anyone claiming the contrary, is just too lazy to even try.
To sum up, we believe all the emu images and full automatic internet key
downloads at the push of a button are hurting the Free-TV community more then it
serves it by forcing Pay-TV providers to implement stronger countermeasures and
we would ask all image makers out there to rethink their position.

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And since we are discussing politics already, some recent news bulletins on
several news services indicated the European Union thinking about forcing Pay-
TV providers to offer their services beyond national borders to anyone who wants
a subscription. We strongly support such a move and we pledge that the emu and
cardsharing facilities in newcamd would be discontinued if Pay-TV providers
would start to offer their services internationally under the same conditions
they offer it to national residents. In particular:

1. same choice and contents of all channel packages (no stripped-down
international subscriptions like Digiturk Euro).
2. same prices as for national customers

It was never the intention of the newcamd Team that people would use it to steal
the services of their national Pay-TV provider (or any other provider they could
officially subscribe to). If and when everyone would be able to officially
subscribe to any Pay-TV package he wants to, under the same conditions as
everyone else and regardless of where he lives, we would feel newcamd becoming
kind of obsolete. The only reason why we make newcamd support emu and card
sharing is to overcome this discrimination by Pay-TV providers to offer official
subscriptions to national residents only.

[dirtydonki]

So where is the file then?

[zg0re]

man, cant you read? Most likely you wnt get any more newcamd files

[jpm]

Originally Posted by dirtydonki

So where is the file then?

YOU are most likely one of the reasons they had to publish this text

[Gray Wolf]

In essence I agree with what the Newcam team are saying. I am sure the sales of certain receivers have rocketed due to the fact that some people can see a way of obtaining encrytpted tv for little effort at an easily affordable price. I am not an expert and have nothing but admiration for the knowledgeable people who help me to continue with my hobby. I maintain that I spend more time messing with files, set-ups and attempting to get a grasp of the principles involved and, furthermore, obtain the updated keys to use in the files of the dreambox to update them manually. This is, to me, a more satisfying way of achieving something. Additionally, the loss of help from the likes of the newcamd team would be very sad but I can see their point. The wide(r) spread of hacked viewing is bringing more attention to our hobby from the providers who in turn concentrate their efforts on improving their systems of prevention. It seems a long time ago when we (I) were messing with Pics and Eproms on on a card. Now the push of a button brings folks just about everything. Rupert, et al, is a rather unforgiving soul who will spend millions to prevent us from accessing a few thousand pounds worth of programmes. Just a thought about commercial realism.
Regards
Gray Wolf
ps I am not being elitist and saying that information should be restricted to a chosen few, just think about the consequences of the above though.

[hawkonflight]

Geeeee


Lets face facts !, pay TV providers does one thing, provide pay TV, and if certain ppl does not like to pay the pay TV companies will take action sooner or later, why the hell shouldnt they??

Its us that fu*k their buissness up with comments like "why pay when i can get it free??", and we all hide behind words like "well the channels are not that good so i would never pay for the shit anyway!", well my friends, why then bother to get all the hardware and software to see the "Crap"??

Free TV is doomed the day its a houshold buissness, and simple math will back that statement up, because if no one pays, there will soon be nothing to watch for free.

Its hard to admit, but we are all thieves, hiding behind a twisted philosophy that suggests we are pioneers and guardians of free speech, and thats a load of crap.

This is the moment when i admit it, im a damn freeloader that has not contributed worth a dime to the developement of Dreambox and its endless possibilities.

I wish i could do more, and i have tried, but its just too damned hard to learnm i admire the ppl that has the capabilities of making EMU´s´and images, and i hope that they will be heard, respect their readme files, and by all means, let them set some kind of rules that prevents greed from getting the best of dreamboxes.

Newcamd team, you rock, and i hope i will be able to see your work progress for many days to come, and i certainly hope that the image modifiers will listen and realise what makes some things tick.


HOF

[armenico11]

sorry se scrivo in Italiano
ho comprato il dreambox a gennaio 2003 e non certo per vedere a scrocco ma per divertirmi a smanettarci.Newcamd è la migliore emu che ci sia anche perchè permette di usare molte smart card originali sui lettori del dreambox.Non trovo giusto che se qualcuno sbaglia e pubblica negli upload degli archivi con dentro newcamd e cose che non debbono ESSERCI come keylist ,rsakeylist edittati o nagra roms editatte ,dobbiamo subirne tutti le conseguenze

sorry if I write in Italian I have bought dreambox to January the 2003 and not sure one in order to see to scrocco but in order to amuse me to smanettarci.Newcamd it is the best one emu that there is also why it allows to use many smart card originates them on the readers of the dreambox.Non I find just that if someone mistakes and publishes in the upload of arches to you with within newcamd and things who does not have IS to US like keylist, rsakeylist edittati or nagra roms editatte, we must endure of all the consequences

[hawkonflight]

Originally Posted by dirtydonki

So where is the file then?

LOL !

This has to go down in history as one of the funniest replies ever on this board, Monty Python could not have done it better !!

Absolutely marvelous, LOLOLOL !

One can only hope that it was ment to be funny, otherwise it could very well be as one of the other replies suggests, a painfully clear evidence of that ppl dont read and respect the readme files.




HOF

[grezz]

I was initially a bit taken aback by the newcamd text but when I thought about it I got to see their point.

First there's the obvious bit - the text file that comes with newcamd always made it clear that it was not for distribution with key files. I believe that anyone who writes and distributes things has the right to set the conditions under which their work is to be distributed. It was quite clear that these conditions were being frequently ignored.

Then there's the bit about not making it too easy. This is the part that irked me a bit at first, but then I saw a few of the threads sprouting up all over the forums after the recent key changes. It is quite obvious that there are a lot of people out there who aren't in it for a hobby or to learn or anything of the sort - they continually ask for keys and things without ever bothering to read previous posts. They just want free tv and that's it. I want free tv too, but the difference is that I'm prepared to work my way to it. In the end I usually don't even see tv - the fun is elsewhere.

hawkonflight has a point though. Saying we do it to strike a blow against the big monopolists is just so much bull. We do it because its our hobby. People who hang on and want an easy way to free tv attract attention to us and endanger our hobby. I don't think that's elitism, I think it's survival.

[dirtydonki]

Well, I'm still waiting for the file LMFAO!!!

Yes, HOF I was having a laugh. Shame the other two Bozo's further up left their sense of humour behind with their brains. ROFLMFAO!!!

The bottom line is that there are other EMU's but it is a real shame. Necamd is and always has been my favourite. Objectively speaking however, who in their wildest dreams could imagine for a moment that the newcamd team's conditions would ever be honoured. Come on really? We all know the nature of the game and it is dealers who rely on facilities such as the newcamd, SF, Hydra Teams, to keep their customers buying products, viz. Dreambox.

To ask users to honour such a mandate as stipulated at the head of this thread is like asking a lion not to eat it's prey.

I do agree, that as hobbyists, we are here learn and progress BUT how not distributing newcamd affects this is mind boggling.

I personally don't care if an image comes EMUless and without key update facilities cos most times it only works initially and you have to do manual updates yourself thereafter anyway.

I am more than capable of loading them on manually and that goes for any keys I may happen across also.

Yes, to me it is primarily a hobby. Jeez, I can't remember the last time I sat down to watch TV properly, but I also do this in protest at the extortionate pricing and constant repetition one is subjected to at those prices. Also why the hell can the whole of Europe watch live football from England on a Saturday afternoon @ 3PM when we who live here cannot!