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DM500S Images

Hi! I have been testing several images for the DM500S and I wanted to share comments and reomendations with other people's experience.

Images tested in this order:
- pli-500-2808
- hydra500_b1
- sf_img_106_1009
- I-have-a-dreambox 0.1

pli-500:
( + ) Very nice setup, fast Sat scan, good audio option, good emu, seems stable.
( - ) Limited download options for a new user, older emu.

hydra500:
( + ) Nice setup, fast Sat scan, newer emu, many options to download, seems a good choice. Good support.
( - ) No audio button!, dowloads could crash the system, skin 16:9 crash the system, seems unstable for newbies.

sf_img:
( + ) Nice setup, but slow Sat scan in Astra, good emus, good download options, good skins, best audio button option. Good support.
( - ) Game like tetris and lemmings are installed but do not appear on menu.

I ended up using the last image from SF. I am very happy with it besides the problem switching channels ( I was able to fix the problem by http). Probably I don't have enough experience for the hydra image or I did something wrong but I did erase before flashing.

Do you have other experience with these or other images? Any recomendation? Thanks.

Update:

I have tested I-Have-a-dreambox 0.1 now so I will add it to the list. Also SF now has the latest emu, you can download newer versions. Also SF is now stable, it was a problem with the channel list. If you delete some channels (like radios) then it tries to update as you zap and it slows down zapping and seems to crash or stop working while its doing the update. Probably some of my problems with Hydra B1 were also related to my inexperience with the box.

IHAD:
( + ) Good emus (all in one in version 0.2), good skins with 16:9, good audio button option. Seems stable.
( - ) Could not finnish Astra scan during initial setup, worked manually selecting another TP. Few options to download like PLi. Incomplete translation.

Update 2:

Revisited Hydra B1 and seems great now that I know a little more about images after good experience with SF image. Just need to make sure you don't load too many addons and plugins to /var (check often with df -h). If you see there is no space, delete some emus you don't need or keys not used. Also as a last resort you can delete satellites.xml but you will lose the option of scanning or adding new channels (SF did a good job with that freeing /var).

Some info from the boards to help you setup Hydra:

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Works well for me. There was a little quirk where you have to comment out 2 lines in the:

/var/etc/radegast.cfg

#ecm flood lock = 5
#ecm flood release = 200

and change this line to say:

descr mode = v3api

I recall it says = file in image.

This will get u out of trouble with this image

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manually download the packages from the URL's listed in cpanel.xml, study the cpanel.xlm where the packages should go (target)
Then use a ftp proggie to copy the packages to a /tmp and telnet to the dreambox;

cd /
gzip -dc /tmp/<package-name> | tar xf -

in this way you also have to manually change your smartcam config file (in /var/etc)

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Do you have other experience with these or other images? Any recomendation? Thanks.
It is a very nice idea to post this images comparison!!!

I 've tested same images above and i totally agree:

Hydra B1 has some download problems (due to free space memory in DM500). It is stable but it need an uninstall feature in Hydra control panel in order to remove add on , so we can add others plugin.
In my Dm500 16/9 skin does not crash, but i have to reboot (may be two times i did not remeber)

I shortly tested also I-Have-a dreambox image for DM500, but i cannot get support as i do not know Dutch language

In the next days i will switch back to SF image and i will do some test again
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Where can I find a DM500 SF image? the images I found are for DM7000 and D5620 (http://www.dreambox.net.au/firmware.php).

EDIT: disregard thread - found the URL!

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Where can I find a DM500 SF image? the images I found are for DM7000 and D5620 (http://www.dreambox.net.au/firmware.php).

EDIT: disregard thread - found the URL!
http://sat-industry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13244

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I will wait until Hydra comes with audio button support for the DM500 remote. That was the only important reason to switch to PLi/SF images (You can still switch audio using the http browser with Hydra, but it is too much trouble for something like that).

When testing PLi vs SF I decided to use SF because all the download support it comes with; besides only key updates in PLi. And also the SF's emu where more up to date. Now I have learned a little more about how to install and modify the box via ftp. So maybe PLi is more stable. I might try it again or wait for an updated image. Both where nice options for the DM500.

Which emus are you using? I was able to use r*d*g*st and n*wc*md in SF and found the last one faster switching channels. But maybe it is what makes it unstable? that or because I deleted all the radios and now it updates the list whenever I switch to a new transponder. I need to investigate further. With PLi I used the sc*m emu and worked very nice.

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It is a very nice idea to post this images comparison!!!

I 've tested same images above and i totally agree:

Hydra B1 has some download problems (due to free space memory in DM500). It is stable but it need an uninstall feature in Hydra control panel in order to remove add on , so we can add others plugin.
In my Dm500 16/9 skin does not crash, but i have to reboot (may be two times i did not remeber)

I shortly tested also I-Have-a dreambox image for DM500, but i cannot get support as i do not know Dutch language

In the next days i will switch back to SF image and i will do some test again
Regards
Roby
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is it possible to manually change the EMU for each channel.

I installed the EMU add-on, I need to select newcamd, but with the SF image I can't find where to change!

With Hydra B1 I think the yellow key allows EMU change.

In the Setup EMU option, EMU select says "none" - did I miss something??

so far I installe SF image 1.06 & the EMU add-ons tar.

Appreciate any help out there.

Thx.
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is it possible to manually change the EMU for each channel.

I installed the EMU add-on, I need to select newcamd, but with the SF image I can't find where to change!

With Hydra B1 I think the yellow key allows EMU change.

In the Setup EMU option, EMU select says "none" - did I miss something??

so far I installe SF image 1.06 & the EMU add-ons tar.

Appreciate any help out there.

Thx.
Setup
External add-on
download add on from alternative
For 5620 &500

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If you press the blue key it will allow you to switch emu and select option for channels. It works like in Hydra B1. That is something PLi image is missing, you cannot select emu on channel with it.

Let us know if you find any other problem with SF.

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is it possible to manually change the EMU for each channel.

I installed the EMU add-on, I need to select newcamd, but with the SF image I can't find where to change!

With Hydra B1 I think the yellow key allows EMU change.

In the Setup EMU option, EMU select says "none" - did I miss something??

so far I installe SF image 1.06 & the EMU add-ons tar.

Appreciate any help out there.

Thx.
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The_Hydra images have all their softc@m selection on BLUE button
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Setup
External add-on
download add on from alternative
For 5620 &500

I get a "Can't resolve hostname" when I try the above, same error when I try download form SatForum.

I checked the dreambox and it has access to the internet and can ping/resolve other hosts.

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