How do I get the EPG to show more than current/next program on Showtime Arabia?

[AMA_DreamBox]

It seems that their new ShowBox receiver is claimed to show a full week's programming, but my Dreambox (both with Hydra Poseidon & PLi Emerald) only shows the current and next programs.

[Dr.Romantic]

The last month Showtime M.E. introduced a new service box with new features to record/organize viewing with a 7-day epg to replace the now-and-next two program epg.

with the introduction of this box the subs. was forced to change his old card with a new one but no change in system of irdeto2 (i'm not sure if it is to merge the card with the receiver or the new card is to enable watching two channels at the same time or to enable the 7-day epg data)

The new box is optional. You can stay with your old card system (I use my dreambox for that) if you want.

The new epg isn't accessible yet in any other receiver but the showbox.

While looking around i noticed that there is a data channel under showtime provider named EEPG with tsid:0002h

the service ID in my dreambox is 0001:ffba0000:0002:0800:144:4019

in Mv b3.1 i added a line to input file
MHW(Ar) e l f 0 mhw-ar 3 epg .dat tsid:0002h

but i couldn't get it to work.

I tested MHW with cyfra with mvb3.1 on hydra final and i got read and all okay.

I also tested on mv b3.5 with
MHW(Ar) e l f 0 mhw-ar 3 epg .dat 0002h-1:0:1:0001:002:0800:ba0000:0:0:0: (not sure if this is correct)
But had problem with freez and couldn't read even cyfra

not sure that the new 7-day epg is transmitted as mhw compatible

is there a way to get showtime epg on mv.
Have I gone wrong somewhere?

[AMA_DreamBox]

Thanks for replying - I am also looking for the exact same answers.

You mentioned that subscribers need to replace their cards. I haven't done that - do you think that may be why I can't receive the 7-day EPG?

I don't plan on upgrading to the ShowBox receiver that Showtime Arabia is promoting as I am perfectly happy with my Dreambox, but I would like the benefit of the 7-day EPG.

I hope some other users can help us with this.

[Dr.Romantic]

well i got the following respond from jmichault in another forum:

Apparently, Showtime does not use a format compatible with mhwepg.

mhwepg read the format used by canalsat (fr), cyfra (pl), canalDigitaal (nl) and SkyItalia(it).
otvepg read the format used by TPS (fr).
mhwepg2 read the format used by digital+ (sp).

To know if Showtime uses one of this formats, you can scan the pids presents on the EEPG channel with dvbsnoop : http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net

To know what PIDs are presents :
dvbsnoop -pd 9 -f 24 -s pidscan

The format read by mhwepg uses PIDs 210 and 211.
The format read by mhwepg2 uses PIDs 561, 564 and 566.
The format read by otvepg uses PID 4150.



To know what are the elementary PIDs :
dvbsnoop 17

To show information on the PID xxx :
dvbsnoop xxx

To capture the PID yyy :
dvbsnoop -b yyy



can some one please compile a dreambox hyda friendly version of dvbsnoop so i cant test the EEPG to check what type of epg data it is sending.

[AMA_DreamBox]

I'm afraid that is completely beyond my capabilities. But I hope someone else can step forward here and help.

[Dr.Romantic]

I did a search here and the nearest post to this subject is at:
Problems with Showtime Arabia

it is a shame that "wadayem" and "Michelangelo" are not active anymore in this forum. they could have helped us for sure.

[AMA_DreamBox]

Now that DVBSnoop has been made available for PLI, I will install it and check for the PID on the EEPG channel.

But then what? How can I use this information to be able to reconfigure MV to be able to read it?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Dr.Romantic

well i got the following respond from jmichault in another forum:

Apparently, Showtime does not use a format compatible with mhwepg.

mhwepg read the format used by canalsat (fr), cyfra (pl), canalDigitaal (nl) and SkyItalia(it).
otvepg read the format used by TPS (fr).
mhwepg2 read the format used by digital+ (sp).

To know if Showtime uses one of this formats, you can scan the pids presents on the EEPG channel with dvbsnoop : http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net

To know what PIDs are presents :
dvbsnoop -pd 9 -f 24 -s pidscan

The format read by mhwepg uses PIDs 210 and 211.
The format read by mhwepg2 uses PIDs 561, 564 and 566.
The format read by otvepg uses PID 4150.



To know what are the elementary PIDs :
dvbsnoop 17

To show information on the PID xxx :
dvbsnoop xxx

To capture the PID yyy :
dvbsnoop -b yyy



can some one please compile a dreambox hyda friendly version of dvbsnoop so i cant test the EEPG to check what type of epg data it is sending.

[Microemission]

Originally Posted by Dr.Romantic

The format read by mhwepg uses PIDs 210 and 211.
The format read by mhwepg2 uses PIDs 561, 564 and 566.
The format read by otvepg uses PID 4150.

I only get data on Pid 210 and 211.
So it must be mhwepg ... i'll try on mhwepg plugin on latest rudream.
1 packet of data logged from dvbsnoop from pid 210 and 211 is attached.

[Microemission]

Added this line on inputs.txt:
MHW(AR) e l f -3600 mhw-ar 2 epg .dat tsid:0002h

added this on mv config but doesn't d/l nothing into /tuxbox/config/mv/mv/mhw-ar
so it must a non standart MHW protocol.
Hope someone implements it on MV...

[AMA_DreamBox]

Unfortunately, this is beyond me. I used to see a channel called EEPG in the Showtime (Nilesat) provider list but it doesn't show up anymore since recent service scan, so I can't even use DVBSnoop on it to check the PID. And even then I wouldn't know what to do with it.

I hope Dr. Romantic would give us some feedback since he had managed to get the extended EPG info previously.

Originally Posted by Microemission

Added this line on inputs.txt:
MHW(AR) e l f -3600 mhw-ar 2 epg .dat tsid:0002h

added this on mv config but doesn't d/l nothing into /tuxbox/config/mv/mv/mhw-ar
so it must a non standart MHW protocol.
Hope someone implements it on MV...